Should America be Isolationist?

america-sailing.jpgI personally don’t want my national government to spend it’s money and lives on the world’s problems. Leave that to business and to missionaries.

That is my feeling on the matter.

But what would happen to the world if the U.S. disengaged?

There is an article that is great at making one think about that topic!

A Pajamas Media Article offers some good thoughts on the topic. Read it and let me know what you think!

7 Replies to “Should America be Isolationist?”

  1. I think it’s a case of you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. What I would like to see is the policies implemented consistently. If we are going to help the people in Iraq achieve freedom, then we need to do the same thing for the people of North Korea. When the U.S. talks about helping oppressed people, what we really mean is that we help oppressed people when it is in our own national interests. If not, then screw ’em.

    The Gulf War was a just war, because Iraq attacked Kuwait, an ally. The current war in Iraq is also a just war, because Iraq defied its terms of surrender from the Gulf War. We should never have made the pretense that we were doing it to “liberate” the Iraqi people. We went to war for our own interests, not that of the Iraqi people.

    It’s this type of borderline hypocrisy that so many people dislike. We need to quit pretending that the U.S. does anything that isn’t in its own interests. Otherwise, we need to actually follow through on our tough talk, even when it isn’t directly related to our own national interests.

  2. He titles the article: How to Get the World to Like Us –The Case for Isolationism

    And then his first sentence is: 1. We can start by helping the Arabs retake Andalusia.

    Ron Silver is clearly an idiot, thanks for the comedy.

  3. We want to make the world a better place. We want others to have liberty and value. These are Christian ideas.

    The commenter Alex Clay wrote: Life is so much easier when you follow the Five Pillars of Islam instead of worrying about hard stuff like the inalienable rights of man.

    I am not snarky enough to write that, but it is true. Trying to think through liberty for the individual is difficult.

    We can’t force other countries to treat their citizens with respect, because liberty is an idea.

    I think this is one of the areas we get in trouble. By making embargoes we attempt to impose American ideas on countries who don’t understand them.

    We can and should protect ourselves from threats, but trying to fix all the problems in the world is not the job of government.

  4. Interesting Jon,,, Ok.

    Mr. Silver entitles his article “,,, The Case for Isolationism”. I interpret this to mean that he is going to present an argument in favor of the USA assuming an isolationist posture as regards foreign policy.

    So just what is “Isolationism”? Here’s what the dictionary says:

    i·so·la·tion·ism [ahy-suh-ley-shuh-niz-uhm, is-uh-] –noun

    the policy or doctrine of isolating one’s country from the affairs of other nations by declining to enter into alliances, foreign economic commitments, international agreements, etc., seeking to devote the entire efforts of one’s country to its own advancement and remain at peace by avoiding foreign entanglements and responsibilities.

    Ok so far?

    Next, the illustrious clear thinker Mr. Silver states that step one of his isolationist plan is: “We can start by helping the Arabs retake Andalusia. ”

    Now – if you are isolationist, you don’t help any foreigner do anything. You keep yourself isolated and don’t get involved. That’s what “Isolationist” means.

    The 2 sentences are clearly, obviously contradictory. It doesn’t even make sense.

    So – either Mr. Silver doesn’t have a very good grasp of the rules of logic, or the English language – Or,,, he’s making a very clumsy attempt at satire.

    Maybe I was too harsh. Good satire is hard to write, try “TheOnion.com” or Jon Stewarts’ “The Daily Show” for examples. Mr. Silver failing miserably at writing satire doesn’t necessarily indicate that he’s an idiot, but it certainly tells me that he’s not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.

    A common malady, don’t you think?

    XOXO

    C

  5. Response to Casper:

    Thank you for clarifying. For one moment I thought that maybe you had commented before actually reading the article.

    So what is “bad” about Mr. Silver’s satire? I am just a lowly blogger. I need help discerning these things.

    🙂

    ThirstyJon

  6. I didn’t say “bad”, I said it was a “clumsy attempt”. He forgot the first rule of satire – satire must be funny. Very common among the radical right.

    For example:

    Did you see any of Faux News’ attempt to make a “Daily Show” for conservatives? They called it the “1/2 hour news hour”. They too forgot that satire must first be funny, and the show was amazingly, revoltingly bad, and even Faux (Ok, Fox) news couldn’t stand the stink for more than a few episodes. For a sample, search “1/2 hour news hour” on youtube.com.

    As a hardcore “conservative” you may find it hilarious, but most of america didn’t.

    To some people, especially rightist authoritarian types, ripping one wing off of a fly and watching his pathetic attempts at flight may be hilarious. This is the kind of humor the Fox News “comedy” show was all about, and what Mr. Silver is going for, and for most of us it doesn’t work.

    My $.02

    C

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