Of course there’s some good news from Iraq. There has always been good news from Iraq. We have 180,000 or so of our best people in there working hard to make it a better place.
Unfortunately, to occupy and pacify a country that size requires 500,000. They can’t get it done ’cause there ain’t enough of ’em, just like General Shinseki said. Too bad Chimpy McFlightsuit fired him for saying so. It’s not good to speak the truth to the Chimp.
We have close to 30,000 casualties now. 30,000 lives ended or changed forever. For what Jon? What did you get for all that blood and all that money? You supported this idiot and his psychotic plans, what did you get? Was it worth it?
When it’s all said and done, we’ll bring our people home, and the Iraqis will sort it out for themselves. Nothing will change that. That’s what has to happen.
Today – November 4th 2007, one or more young americans will die in Iraq. The purpose of the death? To delay for another day the day that the Iraqis beging sorting out their country. If it was your son or daughter, could you say “Yes, that’s a good deal. That’s worth it. Because my child gave up 60 years of life and living, the Iraqi people began rebuilding their country on march 16th, 2009 (or whatever day),,, not March 15th 2009”.
Well that is good news. I was just stopping by. Thanks for posting this stuff and keeping us up to date. Otherwise I would fall behind, cause I don’t have time to search all the latest. Thanks!! As Always, Amanda
Well it appears that we didn’t lose anyone on November 4th 2007, and I can honestly say that I’ve never been so glad to be wrong about something. We did lose 5 on November 5th.
Why is my post still “awaiting moderation” Jon? Are you that busy?
I don’t really look at it as “what did I get” out of the Iraq war. I am concerned about whether or not it was right.
I am not going to tell anyone who has lost a loved one in Iraq “it was worth it.” I have not lost a loved one and do not claim to know how it would feel.
I am still happy to hear good news out of Iraq and I wish our nation success there. I desire success for the Iraqi people as well.
There will be different opinions about how it should have been done. If a mistake is made in war, or if an inferior strategy is used, the cost is tremendous.
I make no claim to be qualified to know if the strategy that was used was the best. That is what West Point and Generals are there for. I doubt a war was ever fought so perfectly that no unnecessary lives were lost. This is a great tragedy of war and a good reason to avoid war unless the cost of not going to war is worse than the war itself.
I am very concerned that the war is so politicized, and that some have so backed themselves into a corner on their “we’re failing in Iraq” stance that they will not be able to accept things like Victory, Good News, and Happy Endings. I am not claiming that you are doing that.
It was and is valid to debate the justifications for the war. It is even valid to debate whether or not the best means were used to win.
What is really wrong is needing to defeat George W. Bush and regain the Whitehouse so badly that it becomes almost desirable to achieve failure in Iraq!
So I am committed to seeing the good news as well as the bad. Any real war will come with both.
Of course there’s some good news from Iraq. There has always been good news from Iraq. We have 180,000 or so of our best people in there working hard to make it a better place.
Unfortunately, to occupy and pacify a country that size requires 500,000. They can’t get it done ’cause there ain’t enough of ’em, just like General Shinseki said. Too bad Chimpy McFlightsuit fired him for saying so. It’s not good to speak the truth to the Chimp.
We have close to 30,000 casualties now. 30,000 lives ended or changed forever. For what Jon? What did you get for all that blood and all that money? You supported this idiot and his psychotic plans, what did you get? Was it worth it?
When it’s all said and done, we’ll bring our people home, and the Iraqis will sort it out for themselves. Nothing will change that. That’s what has to happen.
Today – November 4th 2007, one or more young americans will die in Iraq. The purpose of the death? To delay for another day the day that the Iraqis beging sorting out their country. If it was your son or daughter, could you say “Yes, that’s a good deal. That’s worth it. Because my child gave up 60 years of life and living, the Iraqi people began rebuilding their country on march 16th, 2009 (or whatever day),,, not March 15th 2009”.
Sound like a good deal to you?
Well that is good news. I was just stopping by. Thanks for posting this stuff and keeping us up to date. Otherwise I would fall behind, cause I don’t have time to search all the latest.
Thanks!!
As Always,
Amanda
Well it appears that we didn’t lose anyone on November 4th 2007, and I can honestly say that I’ve never been so glad to be wrong about something. We did lose 5 on November 5th.
Why is my post still “awaiting moderation” Jon? Are you that busy?
Look at them – read their names. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/
Response to Amanda:
Thanks for stopping by!
Response to Casper:
I don’t really look at it as “what did I get” out of the Iraq war. I am concerned about whether or not it was right.
I am not going to tell anyone who has lost a loved one in Iraq “it was worth it.” I have not lost a loved one and do not claim to know how it would feel.
I am still happy to hear good news out of Iraq and I wish our nation success there. I desire success for the Iraqi people as well.
There will be different opinions about how it should have been done. If a mistake is made in war, or if an inferior strategy is used, the cost is tremendous.
I make no claim to be qualified to know if the strategy that was used was the best. That is what West Point and Generals are there for. I doubt a war was ever fought so perfectly that no unnecessary lives were lost. This is a great tragedy of war and a good reason to avoid war unless the cost of not going to war is worse than the war itself.
I am very concerned that the war is so politicized, and that some have so backed themselves into a corner on their “we’re failing in Iraq” stance that they will not be able to accept things like Victory, Good News, and Happy Endings. I am not claiming that you are doing that.
It was and is valid to debate the justifications for the war. It is even valid to debate whether or not the best means were used to win.
What is really wrong is needing to defeat George W. Bush and regain the Whitehouse so badly that it becomes almost desirable to achieve failure in Iraq!
So I am committed to seeing the good news as well as the bad. Any real war will come with both.
Maybe the “surge” is working. We’ll see.
ThirstyJon
Here is a great video showing what it is like to talk to "anti-war" protesters who are inconsistent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyCdfOXvec
It kind of reminds me of talking to Casey.